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WE M4A1 what should I tune

  • Hi guys, I hope you can help me.

    I get a WE M4A1 GBB first version, but have often read that you have various small problems inherently.

    What should I change so that I am satisfied, even the one where she gives me says that she has problems with the magazines and somehow has no strength.

    What I'm also interested in, to make you Co2 capable, do I only need the kit here? and the right magazine, of course.

    sniperairguns.de/sniper/index.…kat1=82&kat2=190&kat3=352

    Thank you for your tips greetings
  • Hi, fight your way through this thread first. I guess that'll answer all of your questions. Or you take a look here.

    Your kit mentioned is completely sufficient. But you have to glue the stabilizer (white thing) in, otherwise it will slide forward when firing and block the trigger.
  • ALso I've now invested around 150-200, - only for internal upgrades and it is still not working properly. Then gave it up after 6 months.
  • Original from your-face
    ALso I've now invested around 150-200, - only for internal upgrades and it is still not working properly. Then gave up after 6 months.


    I cannot understand your problems. I have a V. III M4, but only exchanged Part 66 for a RA Tech CNC part. The usual suspects are stuck on and I've got around 10,000 shots through now.
    The pins on the front sight holder are loose and the whole front section has play ... But it runs smoothly. The internals are original. But I have the Begadi version. I have no idea whether there is anything different to the version that is sold by Sniper.
  • it's like that, i'm from switzerland a guy made me an offer.
    WE M4A1 gbb first version plus 5 magazines, plus RIS all the trimmings, he paid 1109 FR = 769 € and sells it to me for plus or minus 400 Fr. = 278 € should I accept the offer or buy another M4, which would Your doing?
  • Why do you need 5 gas mags if you want to switch to Co2?

    The price is okay for the offer, but I'd still take an AGM and tune it up.
    You can buy the part from the Far East for about $ 150. Then add a handful of Element parts and you're done.
    Plus a lot more choice.

    If you stay with WE, don't buy the CO2 kit from sniper, you can get it from HK for under $ 40.
  • Original by rasgul
    it's like that, i'm from switzerland a guy made me an offer.
    WE M4A1 gbb first version plus 5 magazines, plus RIS all the trimmings, he paid 1109 FR = 769 € and sells it to me for plus minus 400 Fr. = 278 € should I accept the offer or buy another M4, which would Your doing?


    That depends on the condition of the weapon. The price is good if the thing works. I think the CO2 kit is mandatory. In any case, shoot a test and ask whether and what he has done or replaced with it.
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    Original by rasgul
    it's like that, i'm from switzerland a guy made me an offer.
    WE M4A1 gbb first version plus 5 magazines, plus RIS all the trimmings, he paid 1109 FR = 769 € and sells it to me for plus or minus 400 Fr. = 278 € should I accept the offer or buy another M4, which would Your doing?


    Buy and sell on the 6mm forum if one doesn't fit
    Has the part at all ?
    It was extremely expensive! It is absolutely unnecessary ..... And it finally belongs to ME !!!
  • Original from your-face
    ..., but I would still take an AGM and tune it up.


    Well ... where are you going to get it? I haven't found a shop that can deliver them. The fact that it is compatible with WA is of course a huge advantage, as there are more parts than there are for the WE. But the price for the WE is good.
  • Since he comes from Switzerland, the world is open

    AGM is not yet in production again, but you will find something somewhere.

    I said yes, the price is ok, but why buy 5 gas mags and then convert to CO2?

    Well, everyone should know for themselves.

    If I came from Switzerland I would wait until the King Arms, CA, Evo-Airsoft and VFC GBBRs come out. On the one hand, you get WEs thrown afterwards and, on the other hand, there may be some that will work on the market. Although the KJW is supposed to be pretty reliable.
  • Original from your-face

    I said yes, the price is ok, but why buy 5 gas mags and then convert to CO2?



    The magazines are there. But this way he has the option of using a CO2 Mag.
    I also have one and two gas magazines.
  • yes that's why I'm doubting what to do. In Switzerland, the AGM will be back in a month.

    I only talked to him for a short time, and it looks like the magazines are just leaking and he said something that you won't hit anything within 20 meters ...

    My limit is around 300-350 € for the beginning, and later the tuning parts

    PS. With the Co2 kit you can no longer use it with gas, I thought both magazines would just go?
  • Original by rasgul
    I only talked to him for a short time, and it looks like the magazines are just leaking and he said something that you won't hit anything within 20 meters ...


    This guy really has it when it comes to selling.
    But it sounds familiar to me.
    You have to dismantle Mags and either grease the valves or the large seal on the back.

    As I said, if you need one now I would take the AGM. If you can wait, wait for the King Arms or other new releases.
  • I talked to him again and asked him what kind of problems the gun has.

    As I said the magazines were leaking,
    Forward assist fell out, but he still had everything.
    And he exchanged the charching handle.
    He says that the gun is not accurate at the matches, but I think clean it properly, or do some other precision barrel, it should be ok.

    the one with the Co2 kit, can I use both Co2 and gas, right?
  • Original by rasgul
    I talked to him again and asked him what kind of problems the gun has.

    1) As I said the magazines were leaking,
    2) Forward Assist fell out, but it still had everything.
    3) And he has replaced the charching handle.
    4) He says that the gun is not accurate at the matches, but I think clean it properly, or do a precision barrel in another way, it should be ok.
    5) the one with the Co2 kit, can I use both Co2 and gas, right?


    To1) Unusual, but soluble (silicone oil)
    To2) Just stick on, problem solved
    To3) is good
    Clean 4) times. Replacing the barrel is not necessary.
    To5) Yes, that's the good thing. Gas always works, but the kit requires CO2.
  • If you glue in the forward assist, 99% of the time it will fly back to your ears after a few days, been there done that.
    The best thing to do is to just expand the whole thing, nobody needs it anyway.

    And whether you use a tuning barrel or not, you won't hit a barn door with the Hop Up.

    My experience with the V1 in the now almost 365 days.
  • as you will surely notice, I am new to this great sport.

    I'll buy this part, for the beginning it should be ok. If more mature models have appeared, I can still get something better in a year, you never have enough weapons

    As I said = newbie is this hop up interchangeable if this M4 is really so badly scattered?
  • Original from your-face
    If you stick the Forward Assist in 99% of the cases it will fly back to you after a few days,


    I glued mine with superglue (parts 30 and 31 glued) and it has lasted for months. Sniper screws the cap on.